Jennifer Carpenter stopped by the SiriusXM studios recently to talk with Ron Bennington about season 7 of the award winning TV show “Dexter” Excerpts of the interview appear below.
Jennifer Carpenter is in with us. “Dexter”, this show is turned on it’s ear, this year. I’ve been there since the beginning. And I’ll just say this. This is the first season I’m actually mad at Dexter. Because I think he’s chosen himself over his own sister. And up to that point – remember how many times over the years he would be saying – Oh, I have to protect blah, blah, blah. This year, I think he’s put it all on her.
I agree. I’ve lived the last 7 years feeling that way. And I feel like now we’re finally talking about it.
Talking about the fact that maybe he is…
Maybe he’s not a super hero.
And it was – well, here’s the thing too. I was like – first of all, the shock of him actually being found out by you – because in the back of my mind, this was going to be the last episode. I didn’t think you would be able to find the story for it, but this year has been maybe the best year ever.
Good. Yeah. I was worried that they were going to write themselves into a corner and we’d all be trapped in some bad TV show. But it actually opened things up for everyone.
So you agree that Dexter has kind of shown more true colors this year into who he really is.
Yes. There’s nowhere left to hide. He brought it upon himself. He says in the beginning – if he had feelings, these are the people he would like to have feelings for. Well now, he’s always had feelings. I mean he claims to be somebody….
It’s been a lie.
But, yeah. But now he’s got his wish and he’s discovering what it’s really like to be a real boy and live with things like shame and guilt, frustration, anger.
See, for many years, I was like buying into that it’s about addiction or whatever for him, but now this year, I’ve changed my mind – this is a story of abuse. He was abused and I feel like he’s abusing his sister because he’s using seduction. He’s using family history. I think he’s very cruel to Deb this year.
I agree, but I wouldn’t dismiss the addiction part either because he does sort of have the traits – not sort of – he does have the traits of an addict. And yes, he was a victim of abuse when he lost his mother. I think Harry’s steering him towards being a serial killer was also a form of abuse. But yeah, it’s interesting because this is also a father. So I don’t know how interesting this will be for the audience, but I wonder what kind of father he’ll be – what kind of son he’s producing?
Well even this year, the fact that he still goes on – let’s suppose he is an addict, right? He can’t be trusted because he chooses his addiction over his son. He chooses his addiction over his sister. And the fact that she’s trying to make deals with him – it can’t be done. In the same way that you can’t make a deal with an addict. This show’s turned nuts.
And in this last episode, he claims it’s all in his control – like an addict would. Like it’s a problem, but he’s got it.
But I do think that this season will be the angle of – is it going to be a morality tale or not? Is it just to titillate the audience or is there something to learn from this?
That’s one thing I like about the show, is that at the end of the episode, we don’t tell you how to feel about anything.
How many people do you think have been killed there in Miami over the years down there?
All the serial killers live in Miami. I don’t know. I feel like Michael (C. Hall) has kept track of how many people have been killed on the show.
You think he actually has the number? Or little slides that he actually keeps for himself.
I don’t think he keeps the trophies. But it’s so funny like he’s such a great reference because I can say – what was the episode and what year did this happen and that happen? And he’ll say what episode and what season and what he was wearing that day.
It’s a really interesting thing because I think the thing about his character is that he has always stayed so small and then when he goes big – it’s shocking. And your character stays big and then when you go small – it’s shocking. So, it was kind of weird for us to see you, this season, get clobbered with this – take the full brunt of this thing.
A lot of this year was really confusing because I feel like there’s so many growth spurts happening so quickly. I kept going to the writers going – what are you asking me to build? Like what am I laying in for you? Tell me where you’re going. And they’re like – oh, you’re confused. It’s okay because she’s confused too. So there was really no help. It became about me just making decisions on the day as quickly as I can. And some of the stuff coming up is really exciting. Like I think I made some really bold choices in Episode 8, which will change how I play the rest the series. And it’s so awesome because it’s happening like real life.
As an actor, what’s it been like to have been on this kind of run?
I was so green the first season. I barely knew how to hit a mark. I didn’t know how anything worked. Luckily, neither did Deb. But it’s been an incredible learning curve and it has been difficult on some many levels – challenging on so many levels that it’s been like a real education. I feel like every other job I have on hiatus feels like smooth and easy. It’s a gift.
And you’ve done theater here New York. You’ve done movies and stuff. But does “Dexter” even prepare you for those type of things or do you have drop everything?
Absolutely. Because it’s all about preparation. If you show up prepared every day and you’re ready to turn on a dime. In TV, you have to – because what you think a scene is about – the director wants you to go in a totally opposite direction. Like I feel like I can pivot like a pro ball player.
You knew last year when you shot that last scene that everything would change for you. How much warning did they give you of where you were going?
None at all?
None. None at all. I knew a couple of big moments were going to happen, but that didn’t help me at all. It didn’t help me plan at all. The hard part was finishing Season 6 watching the knife go into Travis and then waiting 8 months and coming back and getting in the same clothes on that same set and going back to that very moment. And then trying to pick up where we left off – that was a challenge.
And you – like you say, because you’re shooting it for TV, you’ve got to be able to get there quickly. And then also, there seems to be these things where more and more things dawn on Deb as the season’s going on. So right away, she’s going – wait a minute, that reminded me of…
The plastic wrap.
Yeah, the plastic wrap. And then…wait, was your wife…? And it’s almost like this wave that hit her was too big to even take it on at the same time.
Well, I think Debra had a lot of things that need to be buried. A lot of relationships, a lot of bad memories – my God, her mother died of cancer. It just goes on and on. Like if she was really sifting through these things then how would she go to work every day? So, I think she puts things away and like in life – you can’t help it – sometimes they just creep up and you have to acknowledge them to move forward.
She does have bad luck She picks terrible guys.
Well, Dexter is her bad luck. He’s the magnet that keeps attracting all this bad luck.
And yet, last season, she had like a crush going on with him.
Yeah. She loves him. He’s the only family she’s ever known really.
Are we going to make it through the next 2 seasons?
Oh, we’re gonna kill it.
I mean if you had to guess, does Dexter die?
I don’t know. He can’t totally get away with it. I mean that wouldn’t be very satisfying. I don’t think, but I mean – I’m so glad that that’s not up to me.
And we don’t know now if – for all we know, Deb’s going to be Dexter too by the time this thing is over.
No way. No. I don’t think so, no. I mean have we met Deb? Deb is a cop. She bleeds blue – that would not – that’s not who she is.
And yet, she found the perp and didn’t bust him. Did not bust a murderer. If you really look back on this – if Dexter goes down, Deb could go down right now. Because she’s not being a true cop.
But that’s…yeah. It’s weird the things that you justify. I mean whether it’s behaviors of a boyfriend or whatever or someone you’re in a relationship with or…I mean it’s your family too. I know…I know how I feel about mine. If my sister needed a passport lickety-split, I’d get her out of the country.
Right, but what would we say about a cop who covered up for either a fellow cop…it’s the worst kind.
But it’s the same thing that’s going on with Dexter, but is he in the end saving lives? Is Debra in the end, getting the bad guy? And saving the good guy?